Comments on: Terrible Article That Deserves Ridicule

By: RotoScoop

RotoScoop — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:35:31 +0000

I hear you. No need to lose any sleep over it. I just found it particularly amazing that he wasn’t dissing some newer metric. He was basically criticizing the importance of defense altogether.

By: Nick

Nick — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:46:01 +0000

Please don’t get too upset by anything Ron Borges writes about baseball. He has as many credentials as you or I do on the subject: he’s been a fan for a really long time. I’ve heard him on the radio before say that W-L record is the best measure of a pitcher’s performance. Is it any surprise, let alone something worth getting angry about, that a person who believes this can’t comprehend the philosophy behind advanced metrics?

By: RotoScoop

RotoScoop — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:51:06 +0000

Haha. I actually just came across that article this morning myself. Awful. What were the Braves thinking keeping Maddux all those years?

Man there are some terrible writers out there.

By: i am Jack's fantasy baseball team

i am Jack's fantasy baseball team — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:14:35 +0000

can I nominate a terrible article that deserves ridicule?:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20100203_Sam_Donnellon__Braves__Indians_not_the_best_role_models_for_Phillies.html

By: RotoScoop

RotoScoop — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:12:42 +0000

Ryan – Thanks man. Appreciate it.

Yeah Matt – deplorable, I agree.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:16:34 +0000

Awww. He had to drag Billy Beane into it.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:25:34 +0000

Brilliant post!

By: RotoScoop

RotoScoop — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:00:23 +0000

Poincare – Very well said. And I have def. gotten into similar arguments, where others point to stats as if they aren’t objective and worthwhile.

By: Dreamweapon

Dreamweapon — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:58:06 +0000

It’s just a shame he shares a surname with my Jorge Luis.

By: Poincare

Poincare — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:38:04 +0000

It makes me sick reading articles like Borges’s. It reminds just how downright stupid people can be when ranting on about their own illogical prejudices. I really like your point about how he seems to be basking in his own ignorance of UZR, as if that is some badge of honor. He attempts to appear as if he’s examining all the issues point by point in search of the truth when it’s beyond obvious to anybody paying attention that he started his “fact-finding” with a conclusion already in mind and intends to twist every point in some way so that it supports his desired conclusion–whether his argument actually makes logical sense or not.

I still remember getting into an argument with some guy in a sports bar in which he actually said to me as I was presenting FACTS in support of my position,”…you’re just looking at the statistics…”–as if pointing out simple facts that Derek Jeter hit .150 in a playoff series in Minnesota the previous year cannot possibly be a legitimate way to argue a point. Reading this article reminds me of that guy; that is not a good thing.

One thing I found very heartening was more that one of the comments under the article contained readers calling Borges out for the complete fool he is. It’s good to see other people can see through this BS also.