Quoting Dreamweapon:

It basically reads like a preschooler’s Pynchon, and I suspect the greater part of its fanbase consists of overgrown men of limited intellectual means for whom penetrating beyond the first dozen pages or so of ‘Gravity’s Rainbow’ or ‘V’ simply represented a bridge too far.

All you’ve really done with your posts is confirm that you very much qualify as one of these people. Also, it is redundant to state “you know it twice in the same sentence. Judging by your responses, however, it’s pretty obvious you missed English class in school far too many times.

Sworry I hurted your fweewings.

Let’s get something straight. I NEVER called you blind or insulted you in any way. I criticized a movie that I didn’t like, said I couldn’t understand what anybody sees in this movie, but DID NOT say that people who liked this movie must be blind. You obviously loved to the point of feeling the need to denigrate people you don’t know, which is your prerogative. You are entitled to your opinion, and believe it or not I respect you opinion; I just happen to disagree with it. I have no problem with you disagreeing with my opinion. I do have a problem with you insulting me when you don’t even know me. And for the record, allow me to point out that I NEVER professed to be some all-knowing oracle about “moves (sic) and graphic novels/comics.” All I said in so many words was I disliked the movie and was unsure why anybody would like it.

Despite what you may think Mr. tough “street-thug with a penis instead of a vag” calling somebody “blind” for expressing their opinion on a movie is an insult–and I feel quite vindicated knowing an intelligent and literate person like Dreamweapon agrees with me on this matter. And seriously, if you’re so “thick-skinned” why the need to question my manhood on a message board? I could take this time to insult you directly like you did me, and believe me I’m tempted to, but I won’t.

Good luck in your leagues this season,

Poincare

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Dreamweapon,

Thank you for taking the time to write that response. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Judging by its content it seems to me that, like me, you were once an English Literature major. I sincerely hope we get a chance to exchange more thoughts on this message board or via e-mail because I think you and I are definitely on the same page in more ways than one. Maybe we can help each other win some money in fantasy baseball this season. I’m sure we’d have plenty of quality information to share with each other.

Good luck in your leagues this season,

Poincare

As to the subject matter, every time someone tells me ‘Watchmen’ is some great work of art or literature, my estimation of the comic recedes even further, though not so far as my estimation of their tastes. It is no such thing, and can only suffer for the comparison. Forget giants like Dostoevsky, Melville, Hesse or Huxley, ‘Watchmen’ doesn’t begin to stand up as “literature” even to the overrated likes of Roth or Updike or, hell, King. As a story it is incoherent, wildly digressive, self-absorbed and pretentious. It basically reads like a preschooler’s Pynchon, and I suspect the greater part of its fanbase consists of overgrown men of limited intellectual means for whom penetrating beyond the first dozen pages or so of ‘Gravity’s Rainbow’ or ‘V’ simply represented a bridge too far. Dressing up a pulp story with a couple of quotes from Blake or Juvenal doesn’t begin to make it literature, it just makes it absurd, like Paulie Walnuts trying to add philosophical heft to a statement by citing “Sun Tuh-Zoo” fresh off of having listened to ‘The Art of War’ on cassette tape. Taken strictly as a comic book and a pulp work, it’s ok. And that’s fine, pulp has its place–many of the greatest authors have written some pulp pieces (Kipling, Sinclair, Twain, etc….even the mighty Conrad, whom I revere as a demigod, wrote for a pulp mag). However, in striving to exceed the limitations of the medium by needlessly adorning it with preposterous flourishes while ignoring the fundamentals like plot consistency, character development and pacing, Moore succeeded chiefly in making the comic supremely dilettantish and, at a fundamental level, boring. To me, it represents a classic case of an author’s reach exceeding his grasp. I would recommend the likes of ‘Sandman’, ‘Preacher’ or ‘Transmetropolitan’ (for starters) as quality examples of the genre ahead of ‘Watchmen’ any day of the week. If that makes me “blind” too, well, I guess I’d rather be in the company of Homer, Bach and Stevie Wonder than the kind of ignorant simpleton who venerates a bloated and overreaching comic book as some sort of cultural landmark.

Calling you blind is not an insult. You can call me blind about loving Watchmen — I don’t care. Maybe I have a tough(er) skin from my thuglife spent on the streets, or maybe it’s that I have have a penis instead of a vag, however when I said I thought you were blind, I was just stating how passionate I felt about the work known as Watchmen, both in novel and movie form. Anyone who calls it crap is blind in my book.

Way it is.

Probably going about this the wrong way. Have any other owners expressed interest? If so, what do their rosters/assets look like? Easier to approach theoretical trades with a clearer idea of the possibilities. If nothing else works, hell, just hold, unless you’re absolutely convinced his arm is going to fall off. If he has any kind of hot streak at all, ESPN will be hailing him as a cross between Whitey Ford and Jesus, and plumper offers are sure to follow at that juncture.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. By the way, I’m sure you meant to say “movies”, not moves, because there is no way that you would know anything about my “moves”. Disagree with me if you want, but don’t you dare call me blind about anything. You don’t know me, and I don’t appreciate the insult. My opinion.

I think we are two different people that saw two different movies. Sure we share a bond of fantasy baseball, but, dude, you are blind when it comes to moves and graphic novels/comics.

My opinion.

Whatever you do, don’t go shooting yourself in the foot by projecting your negative feelings about the guy in your trade discussions, any halfway decent haggler will use the knowledge to rob you blind.

I’ll definitely post all of my LABR results when I get back – I’m leaving Phoenix today.