Comments on: The Scoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/ The Scoop on Fantasy Sports Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:29:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308987 RotoScoop Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:58:22 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308987 Yeah definitely keep Lee. Yeah definitely keep Lee.

]]> By: DirtyMexicans http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308986 DirtyMexicans Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:52:13 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308986 I hear you Dreamweapon. I'm in a 5x5 roto keeper league and the two pitchers I've slated to keep are Oswalt and Lee, with Dempster or Danks as alternative options. So while I've really got no other option, I was just wondering if people thought Lee's top 15 status would hold down the line. I hear you Dreamweapon. I’m in a 5×5 roto keeper league and the two pitchers I’ve slated to keep are Oswalt and Lee, with Dempster or Danks as alternative options. So while I’ve really got no other option, I was just wondering if people thought Lee’s top 15 status would hold down the line.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308985 RotoScoop Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:51:48 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308985 Dreamweapon summed up Lee precisely. I agree last year was no fluke - his skills improved dramatically. The one area he was truly lucky in was that just 6.0 percent of his fly balls went for homers, which was the lowest amount in MLB. So his ERA will jump some when that corrects itself this year. Still, a 5:1 K:BB ratio is extremely elite - so he's probably for real. Just don't expect another Cy Young worthy year. Dreamweapon summed up Lee precisely. I agree last year was no fluke – his skills improved dramatically. The one area he was truly lucky in was that just 6.0 percent of his fly balls went for homers, which was the lowest amount in MLB. So his ERA will jump some when that corrects itself this year. Still, a 5:1 K:BB ratio is extremely elite – so he’s probably for real. Just don’t expect another Cy Young worthy year.

]]> By: Dreamweapon http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308954 Dreamweapon Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:20:52 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308954 Living in two separate AL Central markets last year, I had plenty of opportunities to see Lee and I thought he looked really good. Confident, aggressive, poised. He was constantly attacking the strike zone every time I saw him, and the important underlying stats bear that out--there was nothing unusual about his BABIP, which was right in line with his past few years (notably, he stayed effective all year even after his incredibly lucky April), while his K/9 went up, his walks went radically down, and he induced a much better GB rate. All of that is fantastic, so, on the one hand, he may have genuinely turned the corner, and what you saw last year could be about what he actually is. OTOH, his stuff isn't exactly elite (I can't see him ever sniffing 200 Ks, for example, nor will he ever be in the class of say, Webb or Halladay, as far as GB pitchers go), so he's going to have to continue to exhibit pinpoint command and smarts, and be fairly lucky, in order to continue to thrive and justify his elevated status. He's going quite high in drafts from what I've seen--higher than I would take him, considering there are typically several guys with 220 K-type upside and/or longer resumes of sustained success left on the board when's plucked. Equivocal, I know, but I guess the long and short is that I think he did have an actual breakthrough last year, but that it's going to be tough to sustain due to his merely average ability to generate easy outs via the K or GB. He's probably a Top-20 SP, but far closer to #20 than 1, or even 10, which is about where he's going (MDC say #9 SP taken). So, while I think he's good, I really doubt he's as good as his draft position and would much rather take a flier on a flamethrower at those prices. Living in two separate AL Central markets last year, I had plenty of opportunities to see Lee and I thought he looked really good. Confident, aggressive, poised. He was constantly attacking the strike zone every time I saw him, and the important underlying stats bear that out–there was nothing unusual about his BABIP, which was right in line with his past few years (notably, he stayed effective all year even after his incredibly lucky April), while his K/9 went up, his walks went radically down, and he induced a much better GB rate. All of that is fantastic, so, on the one hand, he may have genuinely turned the corner, and what you saw last year could be about what he actually is. OTOH, his stuff isn’t exactly elite (I can’t see him ever sniffing 200 Ks, for example, nor will he ever be in the class of say, Webb or Halladay, as far as GB pitchers go), so he’s going to have to continue to exhibit pinpoint command and smarts, and be fairly lucky, in order to continue to thrive and justify his elevated status. He’s going quite high in drafts from what I’ve seen–higher than I would take him, considering there are typically several guys with 220 K-type upside and/or longer resumes of sustained success left on the board when’s plucked. Equivocal, I know, but I guess the long and short is that I think he did have an actual breakthrough last year, but that it’s going to be tough to sustain due to his merely average ability to generate easy outs via the K or GB. He’s probably a Top-20 SP, but far closer to #20 than 1, or even 10, which is about where he’s going (MDC say #9 SP taken). So, while I think he’s good, I really doubt he’s as good as his draft position and would much rather take a flier on a flamethrower at those prices.

]]> By: DirtyMexicans http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308934 DirtyMexicans Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:04:00 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308934 What does everyone think about Cliff Lee this year? He certainly had his cards fall in place last year. Was this a fluke or something he could carry over into this year? What does everyone think about Cliff Lee this year? He certainly had his cards fall in place last year. Was this a fluke or something he could carry over into this year?

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308734 RotoScoop Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:46:44 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308734 Stevie Ya Yo - Close call, but I agree, I'd go with Hawpe/Francisco. Probably Hart - dude is huge. Stevie Ya Yo – Close call, but I agree, I’d go with Hawpe/Francisco.

Probably Hart – dude is huge.

]]> By: Stevie YaYo http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308686 Stevie YaYo Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:48:10 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308686 Salary-based keeper league -- I can keep the combo of Brian Roberts-Carlos Gonzalez or Brad Hawpe-Frank Francisco. In a vacuum I have to go with the latter tandem, no? Also in a vacuum -- who wins a Tulo-Corey Hart deal? Or is that an Alien V. Predator-type proposition, whereby whoever wins, we lose? Salary-based keeper league — I can keep the combo of Brian Roberts-Carlos Gonzalez or Brad Hawpe-Frank Francisco. In a vacuum I have to go with the latter tandem, no?

Also in a vacuum — who wins a Tulo-Corey Hart deal? Or is that an Alien V. Predator-type proposition, whereby whoever wins, we lose?

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308678 RotoScoop Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:34:46 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308678 Randy - I agree with their assessment. No way would I trade Felix for John Danks. I mean, Danks is solid, but he's nowhere near Felix's level. I understand his WHIP has been disappointing, but there's still huge upside there. No way for Sheets either. His arm is such a question mark, no team will sign him even on the cheap (yes, the fact he's a Type A free agent and will cost a first round pick has something to do with it, but his injury is the main reason). http://www.star-telegram.com/284/story/1163351.html Greinke wouldn't be crazy, but I bet you could ask for more in that deal. Come back with some more specific details... Randy – I agree with their assessment. No way would I trade Felix for John Danks. I mean, Danks is solid, but he’s nowhere near Felix’s level. I understand his WHIP has been disappointing, but there’s still huge upside there.

No way for Sheets either. His arm is such a question mark, no team will sign him even on the cheap (yes, the fact he’s a Type A free agent and will cost a first round pick has something to do with it, but his injury is the main reason).

http://www.star-telegram.com/284/story/1163351.html

Greinke wouldn’t be crazy, but I bet you could ask for more in that deal.

Come back with some more specific details…

]]> By: Tyler Durden http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308674 Tyler Durden Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:56:28 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308674 words that stand out to me are "in my keeper league" Felix is going to ne 23. Repeat....going to be. Kis is only frakking 22. I think we forget that sometimes. Grinke is young & talented too, but I'd rather find something to trade for G so I have both instead of either. But that's just me. words that stand out to me are “in my keeper league”

Felix is going to ne 23. Repeat….going to be. Kis is only frakking 22.

I think we forget that sometimes.

Grinke is young & talented too, but I’d rather find something to trade for G so I have both instead of either. But that’s just me.

]]> By: Donald Trump http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308673 Donald Trump Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:41:45 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308673 yes, trading the king for danks is stupid. for sheets it is stupid. for grienke, maybe. I wouldnt do it, but I would not fault you for grabbing grienke. yes, trading the king for danks is stupid. for sheets it is stupid. for grienke, maybe. I wouldnt do it, but I would not fault you for grabbing grienke.

]]> By: randy http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308666 randy Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:26:05 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308666 or if really wanted to gamble what about ben sheets--------iam done know or if really wanted to gamble what about ben sheets——–iam done know

]]> By: randy http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308665 randy Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:22:10 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308665 or zach greinke------ or zach greinke——

]]> By: randy http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308664 randy Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:20:11 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308664 hi, i have mixed feelings in keeeper league for king felix, am thinking of trading him for john danks, am i stupid i just have a good feeling on danks,are there any other pitchers you would trade him for--------thanks hi, i have mixed feelings in keeeper league for king felix, am thinking of trading him for john danks, am i stupid i just have a good feeling on danks,are there any other pitchers you would trade him for——–thanks

]]> By: Tyler Durden http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308644 Tyler Durden Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:19:56 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308644 Agree about Hafner and only mentioned him as a "hail mary". Last year he was drafted anywhere from 3rd to 6th round. This year, try round 18-26. That is risk/reward and the only DH I really want to take a stab at. Will I target him? Probably not (unless his Spring raises eyebrows), but every draft is different & every team you draft is different, so he might make sense and it might make sense to swing for fences in round 21. Just saying... Agree about Hafner and only mentioned him as a “hail mary”. Last year he was drafted anywhere from 3rd to 6th round. This year, try round 18-26. That is risk/reward and the only DH I really want to take a stab at. Will I target him? Probably not (unless his Spring raises eyebrows), but every draft is different & every team you draft is different, so he might make sense and it might make sense to swing for fences in round 21.

Just saying…

]]> By: Walt Weiss http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308605 Walt Weiss Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:32:11 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308605 I tend to dominate in everything I do. But last year I only came in third in fantasy baseball. Why? Because I drafted Travis "don't you miss Eddie Murray" Hafner. I tend to dominate in everything I do. But last year I only came in third in fantasy baseball. Why? Because I drafted Travis “don’t you miss Eddie Murray” Hafner.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308570 RotoScoop Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:30:08 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308570 It's just one person's rankings, which in a way is good (can get differing opinions elsewhere on the site) but in a way bad (the cheat sheet and rankings appear to reflect the entire site). It’s just one person’s rankings, which in a way is good (can get differing opinions elsewhere on the site) but in a way bad (the cheat sheet and rankings appear to reflect the entire site).

]]> By: Dreamweapon http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308569 Dreamweapon Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:19:30 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308569 Now see, that's just weird, considering Sonnanstine is basically just the lower-middle class man's Baker or Slowey. It's like ranking David Price #9 but putting Clayton Kershaw at #71. Wait....does Bill Smith write for Rotowire? I get it now. Cagey, Smith, cagey. Pump up your kids through back channels and move them for Benjamins on the Jackson. Maybe he really can take up Terry Ryan's mantle. Now see, that’s just weird, considering Sonnanstine is basically just the lower-middle class man’s Baker or Slowey. It’s like ranking David Price #9 but putting Clayton Kershaw at #71.

Wait….does Bill Smith write for Rotowire? I get it now. Cagey, Smith, cagey. Pump up your kids through back channels and move them for Benjamins on the Jackson. Maybe he really can take up Terry Ryan’s mantle.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308562 RotoScoop Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:52:07 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308562 I agree.....Meche #43, Sonnanstine #71. I agree…..Meche #43, Sonnanstine #71.

]]> By: Dreamweapon http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308559 Dreamweapon Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:21:06 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308559 WOW. No disrespect to Rotowire, but that's just absurd. I love Baker, but only as a 4 or 5. They have him as a 1. No way, no way in hell. We're talking about an extreme flyball pitcher--like the third highest FB rate in the majors last year, only Oliver Perez and Jered Weaver were worse. The guy gave up 1.1 HR/game! U.S. Cellular and Comerica were #2 and #6 in HR park factor last season, and obviously Cleveland's lineup should be better this year. As much as I like him, there are at least 40 pitchers in better situations as far as I'm concerned. Nine?!? Jesus Christ. Those rankings seem kind of desperate to me. Give me a flier on Kazmir or Liriano, or hell, Bedard, any day of the week at those prices. Where do they have Sonanstine? 16? Is Gil Meche a top-10 option? Lord have mercy. WOW. No disrespect to Rotowire, but that’s just absurd. I love Baker, but only as a 4 or 5. They have him as a 1. No way, no way in hell. We’re talking about an extreme flyball pitcher–like the third highest FB rate in the majors last year, only Oliver Perez and Jered Weaver were worse. The guy gave up 1.1 HR/game! U.S. Cellular and Comerica were #2 and #6 in HR park factor last season, and obviously Cleveland’s lineup should be better this year. As much as I like him, there are at least 40 pitchers in better situations as far as I’m concerned. Nine?!? Jesus Christ. Those rankings seem kind of desperate to me. Give me a flier on Kazmir or Liriano, or hell, Bedard, any day of the week at those prices. Where do they have Sonanstine? 16? Is Gil Meche a top-10 option? Lord have mercy.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2009/01/the-scoop-109/comment-page-1/#comment-308556 RotoScoop Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:04:52 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2009/01/23/the-scoop-109/#comment-308556 Dreamweapon - FWIW, RotoWire has Baker as the No. 9 SP and Slowey the No. 15 - both seem way too high to me. I love Slowey's contributions to WHIP, but he's too homer prone to be a true stud. The guy did have a 37:2 K:BB ratio last August, which is pretty remarkable. Baker is legit too tho. Dreamweapon – FWIW, RotoWire has Baker as the No. 9 SP and Slowey the No. 15 – both seem way too high to me. I love Slowey’s contributions to WHIP, but he’s too homer prone to be a true stud. The guy did have a 37:2 K:BB ratio last August, which is pretty remarkable. Baker is legit too tho.

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