The Scoop

By Dalton Del Don

The wait is over – time to start cranking out the baseball notes. Just two short months before the start of the season, and I, for one, can’t wait for it to get here.

For me, there’s a clear cut top-six this year – Hanley Ramirez, Alex Rodriguez, Jose Reyes, Albert Pujols, David Wright and Grady Sizemore. That order can differ plenty, but I can’t see taking any other player with the first six picks, and I also see a decent drop off afterward. You’re at a sizeable advantage picking early in 2009, as there are a bunch of similar players going in the late first round all the way until the end of the second round.

The designated hitter position is riddled with old, injury-prone players this year – David Ortiz, Jim Thome, Gary Sheffield, Travis Hafner. There are some bounce back opportunities here, but make sure these guys come at a significant discount. And then there’s Billy Butler, who hit nine of his 11 homers after the All-Star break last season, when his slugging percentage jumped nearly 150 points. Still, his OPS versus righties was a disgusting .597, so he has plenty of work left in front of him.

I expect Stephen Drew to end up on a bunch of my teams this year. He sacrificed walks for more power last year, which fantasy owners will always take. He also has Chase Field working for him and quietly hit .326/.372/.556 after the All-Star break last season. Drew is also capable of stealing more bases if he so chooses, so don’t be shocked if shortstop’s big three gains a new member in 2009.

I’ve seen Chase Utley go in the first round of some early drafts, which is just too soon for someone who may miss the first month, or even two, of the season. If he beats the odds and returns in early April, there’s obviously big upside with Utley, but a pick that early simply needs to be safer than someone returning from major surgery, as there’s also no telling how close to full strength he’ll be even when he does return to the diamond.

What do we make of Carlos Quentin? Finally breaking out when healthy, he was one of the league’s best players in 2008. In fact, he was on pace to finish with 45 homers, 125 RBI, 120 runs, nine steals and a .288 BA before a wrist injury ended his season prematurely. The performance was hardly a fluke, and he even got better as the season progressed, posting a 24:23 K:BB ratio with a 1.117 OPS in 141 at-bats after the break. Quentin also has a terrific hitting environment at his disposal. However, 2008 was the only year in the majors he’s even approached reaching his potential, and he’s proving to be quite an injury risk. Moreover, wrist injuries are toward the top of the list as most worrisome for hitters, although he claims he’s 100 percent recovered already. Right now his ADP pegs him as a late third round pick, which seems about right.

There’s a starting pitcher who finished with a 17-7 record, 3.41 ERA and 1.21 WHIP last season, and yet, he’s not in my top-60 SP rankings. Joe Saunders’ 4.68 K/9 IP and 1.94:1 K:BB ratios were flat out awful. According to his FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching), his ERA should have been 4.43, making him the third luckiest pitcher in baseball (Armando Galarraga and Daisuke Matsuzaka were the first two, respectively). Good luck repeating that .267 BABIP. Avoid Saunders like the plague this year.

The more I think about it, the more I see Tim Lincecum as a first round pick. I know the current trend among “experts” is to wait on pitching at least until after round five, and while I don’t necessarily disagree with this notion, Lincecum is the one outlier. He’s far and away the most valuable starting pitcher, separating himself by some distance from No. 2 – unless you don’t care about Johan Santana’s sinking K rate or rising BB rate (three straight years) or the fact he was extremely lucky in 2008 (.825 strand rate, 3.83 xFIP), then maybe Lincecum’s got competition. But if you care about those types of things, then Lincecum should easily be viewed as the No. 1 starting pitcher. Of course, I can understand avoiding that position early no matter the pitcher because of the inherent risk, not to mention Lincecum’s high pitch counts. Without a doubt, pitchers are riskier than position players, and also “wins” may be an issue backed by the Giants’ inept offense. However, after the top eight picks or so, who jumps out at you? Ryan Howard, Mark Teixeira, Lance Berkman, Evan Longoria, Matt Holliday? Really? Give me The Freak.


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35 responses to “The Scoop”

  1. Donald Trump Avatar
    Donald Trump

    Finally. Baseball is back. I know I am not alone in this sentiment.

    I hear you about stephen drew, and I could certainly seem him being the 4th best ss this year, but i dont see him climbing into a group with the top 3 unless his steals pick up considerably. 9 is his high mark in the pros.
    I am beginning to hear you on lincecum, but with a first round pick, you really need to play it safe. that pitch count of his has given me nightmares.
    On santana, I believe that shea (if citi goes under, can we resume calling it shea?) might be undervalued as an asset to mets pitchers (http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/1/7/711009/citi-field-where-homeruns)

  2. The Jewru Avatar
    The Jewru

    Dalton, I understand the top 6 but I would surely take Miguel Cabrera at the 7 slot every time. It took him a half to adjust to the different pitchers in the AL but rest assured he will be a complete animal this year.

    I love Timmy as much as the next guy but you just can’t take him in the first round. Dierkes had a great post about the the first 20 pitchers drafted last year based on ADP and only 6 finished in the top 10 in Roto value. That is just plain scary. I would gladly take Tex, Howard, Braun, Kinsler, Rollins over him.

    Love the Sabermetric breakdown on Saunders. I would not roster that pig. Who else is huge on Kevin Slowey this year? Check out his K rate over his last 45 innings plus he had the best K top BB ratio in the majors.

    I love Talking Baseball. Nothing better. Peace

  3. Tyler Durden Avatar
    Tyler Durden

    Oh yeah. Finally. I play in too many Dynasty leagues, so talking baseball is a year-round thing for me.

    Agree about Lincy, but I’m just never the guy that takes SP early, especially round one. As tempted as I get, I always find myself thinking “stay the course.”

    Like most, I get my pitching as it comes and then add some late steals. Love Greinke. Slowey. Love Parra.

    DHs are indeed ugly. Hafner is the bounce-back to gamble on, but I am not hearing much to get excited about buying that lottery ticket. He’s saying all the right things, but proof is in the pudding and he’s not even swinging the bat yet.

    Utley. Agree, but I am keeping my eyes on the news. Farther he falls, more I am tempted. Yeah, I might be that guy this year if I can get him end of first or in second.

  4. Dreamweapon Avatar
    Dreamweapon

    Have to agree about Fat Miggy, the man was a house ablaze the second half of the year. 40/120 seems like a near mortal lock and there is plenty of upside beyond that (50/140?), and would anybody be surprised if he hit upwards of .340 now that he’s acclimated to AL pitching? He’s really as safe as they come, basically a Venezuelan Pujols. Certainly the youngest surefire HoFer in recent memory.

    Beyond that, I’m tempted to say Rollins is almost a necessary 8. He still ran like a demon despite the nasty ankle injury last year, and should have better power this season. And hey, he’s only a year removed from his MVP campaign. Kinsler and some of the other OF guys (Braun, Hamilton) etc. are good and all, but from a position scarcity standpoint, I don’t think there is a more precipitous dropoff in talent at any position than the chasm between #3 and #4. I mean, who IS #4? Tulowitzki? Furcal? Drew? Derek friggin’ Jeter? Ick, ick, ick and ick. 2B is deeper this season, OF is always manageable. If you don’t get a top-3 SS, you’re at risk there because every other guy has massive question marks. If you pass on Rollins after 7-8 in a 12+ teamer, kiss him goodbye because he’s not coming around on the switchback.

    I’m really puzzled by all of the Slowey love considering Baker has performed better in the majors and comes cheaper.

    My favorite late Hail Mary this year is that pussy-ass bitch Erik Bedard. I hate him with the quiet, burning intensity of a thousand suns for letting me down so bad last year, but he just fell from like a 3-4 rounder to a 15-18 type. Supposedly the shoulder wasn’t as bad as originally feared when the surgeons went in, and he’s on target to begin the season from what I’ve heard. He’s in a contract year, if he wants to really set himself up for life so he can withdraw from society and go sulk on his Ontario farm like the big pussy he is, he’s better pull it all together this year and fool someone into giving him a 4- or 5-year deal. It’s a gamble, but what other arm can you possibly get that late who has legit top-5 SP1 type talent?

    I’d also like to offer that Dayton Moore has surpassed Brian Sabean as the stupidest GM in baseball. The Jacobs pickup was criminal. Far beyond the fact that they Hosmer in the system, Kaaihue murdered the living shit out of the ball last year and would probably be a superior option right now. Instead, the kid will rot in AAA while the immortal Ross Gload, Sasquatch Shealy and Mike friggin’ Jacobs fight for ABs. I don’t see how guys like Butler or Gordon can possibly break out in an environment like this.

  5. The Jewru Avatar
    The Jewru

    Weapon, Jacobs fills the seats!!!!!! lol It would have been nice to take a flyer on Kaaihue.

    Tyler, Dalton can tell you about my man crush on Zach Greinke. This is an interesting read from Fantasy Baseball 365.

    http://fantasybaseball365.com/2008/12/possible-09-breakouts-zach-greinke.html

  6. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Donald Trump – Good point – even if S. Drew becomes the 4th SS (where I have him ranked entering the year), that still likely leaves him a decent amount behind the big three. I do agree there.

    Ya I had read that article about the new Shea being a pitcher’s park, and I’ll never deny a hitter (or even Johan) as not safer than Lincecum, but Santana’s # of pitches thrown have been creeping up as well (he only threw 84 fewer than Timmy last year).

  7. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Jewru – Oh, make no mistake, M. Cabrera is definitely No. 7 on my board. I actually considered calling it an easy top-7, with Rollins/Lincecum next. Then I see a real crap shoot. So I’m totally with you on MCab at 7.

    I hear you that more pitchers become busts than hitters, but there are still plenty of hitters that will be as well. I mean, Kinsler could be huge, but there’s quite a bit of uncertainty there also.

    I like Slowey quite a bit.

  8. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Tyler Durden – I used to be big on Hafner, but he’s such a wild card. How much can we blame on the injury? I agree, take a prove it first approach there unless he comes at a huge discount. I was all over Utley as a top-5 pick last year, so I’m a fan if healthy. He could have been the MVP two years in a row if not injured.

  9. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Dreamweapon – You guys are preaching to the choir about Cabrera. In fact, I take it fully back – there’s an obvious top-7 officially. He had to adjust to the AL – and hit 26 homers over the final three months. With 79 RBI. His BABIP was .316 (his career mark is .350). I wouldn’t blame someone for taking him No. 1, really.

    Agreed with Rollins. He should probably go 7th.

    Does Baker really go appreciably later than Slowey? I like them both quite a bit.

    Agreed with Bedard as well. On all fronts.

    And D. Moore was so promising too. I’m not ready to say anyone is worse than Sabean, but ya, the situation in KC is bad.

  10. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    It’s true, Jewru loves him some Greinke.

  11. Nat Avatar
    Nat

    Tremendous. I even love reading all the comments when baseball’s the topic.

    The simple fun factor of owning Lincecum has to be listed as a reason to draft him in the first round.

    Drew as the 4th SS? I lean towards Peralta. Not sure I’m on the Alexei-Is-The-Next-Soriano bandwagon.

    Yovani Gallardo. Just wanted to say his name.

  12. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Love Gallardo.

  13. Poincare Avatar
    Poincare

    I agree with Nat that Jhonny Peralta would be my #4 shortstop. He turns 27 in late May, hits in the middle of the Cleveland line-up, and is coming off a 23 HR, 89RBI, 104RS season which doesn’t seem the least bit out of context with his previous career stats.

    I agree with Jewru that after your top 6 the one guy who most sticks out is Miguel Cabrera. I know he would be an easy #7 selection for me if the other six guys were gone. I might even take him over Sizemore.

    My one “sleeper” for 2009 is Delmon Young. He arrived in the major leagues with such high expectations (I clearly remember numerous Albert Belle comparisons) that I think people aren’t giving him any credit for what he’s actually accomplishing and are also forgetting that he is still only 23 years old.

    I hasten to point out that I wouldn’t want him on my team in real life, but I really like him for 5 by 5 fantasy baseball in 2009. He’s hit .288 and .290 his two years as a regular with double figure homers and steals both seasons. At worst, I see a lower level five category guy who can help you win as your last outfielder; and, based on his age alone, he still has plenty of upside.

    God I love talking baseball, especially with a passionate and well-informed group like you guys. Another clear sign of the quality of your blog DDD. I already know you will–but keep up the great work.

  14. Dreamweapon Avatar
    Dreamweapon

    Hey, gotta say something–Cabrera has been my favorite player ever since he tortured the Cubs in the NLCS, and especially the following Spring when he playfully reenacted Alou’s hissy fit following the Bartman incident, throwing his glove down and hopping around. I thought it was hilarious and was pretty smitten. Of course, his work at the plate speaks for itself.

    As for Slowey v. Baker, from what I’ve seen Slowey is getting some insane pub and expectations (esp. for a guy who simply doesn’t miss enough bats to ever be a stud, period) whereas Baker is typically ignored. I ran a couple of mocks on MDC for fun and both times managed to reel in Baker about 5-6 rounds after Slowey was taken. That’s one thing, but now I’m informed that Fanball just came out and ranked Slowey as the #14 pitcher!!!!! FOURTEEN!?!?!?! Are we talking about KEVIN Slowey? There are probably 14 better fantasy pitchers in his division alone. Anyone who pays anything like that kind of price had better be ready for a tasty Slowey Gin Fizzle (haha, terrible, I know, but I had fun with it).

  15. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Poincare – Maybe I should bump up Peralta, but I’d probably take Furcal over him.

    I agree about Delmon Young to a point, but his lack of power is a real concern. He hit more ground balls than fly balls last year. But there’s still plenty of room for growth, as you mention. There’s still a lot of upside there.

    Thanks man.

  16. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Dreamweapon – FWIW, RotoWire has Baker as the No. 9 SP and Slowey the No. 15 – both seem way too high to me. I love Slowey’s contributions to WHIP, but he’s too homer prone to be a true stud. The guy did have a 37:2 K:BB ratio last August, which is pretty remarkable. Baker is legit too tho.

  17. Dreamweapon Avatar
    Dreamweapon

    WOW. No disrespect to Rotowire, but that’s just absurd. I love Baker, but only as a 4 or 5. They have him as a 1. No way, no way in hell. We’re talking about an extreme flyball pitcher–like the third highest FB rate in the majors last year, only Oliver Perez and Jered Weaver were worse. The guy gave up 1.1 HR/game! U.S. Cellular and Comerica were #2 and #6 in HR park factor last season, and obviously Cleveland’s lineup should be better this year. As much as I like him, there are at least 40 pitchers in better situations as far as I’m concerned. Nine?!? Jesus Christ. Those rankings seem kind of desperate to me. Give me a flier on Kazmir or Liriano, or hell, Bedard, any day of the week at those prices. Where do they have Sonanstine? 16? Is Gil Meche a top-10 option? Lord have mercy.

  18. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    I agree…..Meche #43, Sonnanstine #71.

  19. Dreamweapon Avatar
    Dreamweapon

    Now see, that’s just weird, considering Sonnanstine is basically just the lower-middle class man’s Baker or Slowey. It’s like ranking David Price #9 but putting Clayton Kershaw at #71.

    Wait….does Bill Smith write for Rotowire? I get it now. Cagey, Smith, cagey. Pump up your kids through back channels and move them for Benjamins on the Jackson. Maybe he really can take up Terry Ryan’s mantle.

  20. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    It’s just one person’s rankings, which in a way is good (can get differing opinions elsewhere on the site) but in a way bad (the cheat sheet and rankings appear to reflect the entire site).

  21. Walt Weiss Avatar
    Walt Weiss

    I tend to dominate in everything I do. But last year I only came in third in fantasy baseball. Why? Because I drafted Travis “don’t you miss Eddie Murray” Hafner.

  22. Tyler Durden Avatar
    Tyler Durden

    Agree about Hafner and only mentioned him as a “hail mary”. Last year he was drafted anywhere from 3rd to 6th round. This year, try round 18-26. That is risk/reward and the only DH I really want to take a stab at. Will I target him? Probably not (unless his Spring raises eyebrows), but every draft is different & every team you draft is different, so he might make sense and it might make sense to swing for fences in round 21.

    Just saying…

  23. randy Avatar
    randy

    hi, i have mixed feelings in keeeper league for king felix, am thinking of trading him for john danks, am i stupid i just have a good feeling on danks,are there any other pitchers you would trade him for——–thanks

  24. randy Avatar
    randy

    or zach greinke——

  25. randy Avatar
    randy

    or if really wanted to gamble what about ben sheets——–iam done know

  26. Donald Trump Avatar
    Donald Trump

    yes, trading the king for danks is stupid. for sheets it is stupid. for grienke, maybe. I wouldnt do it, but I would not fault you for grabbing grienke.

  27. Tyler Durden Avatar
    Tyler Durden

    words that stand out to me are “in my keeper league”

    Felix is going to ne 23. Repeat….going to be. Kis is only frakking 22.

    I think we forget that sometimes.

    Grinke is young & talented too, but I’d rather find something to trade for G so I have both instead of either. But that’s just me.

  28. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Randy – I agree with their assessment. No way would I trade Felix for John Danks. I mean, Danks is solid, but he’s nowhere near Felix’s level. I understand his WHIP has been disappointing, but there’s still huge upside there.

    No way for Sheets either. His arm is such a question mark, no team will sign him even on the cheap (yes, the fact he’s a Type A free agent and will cost a first round pick has something to do with it, but his injury is the main reason).

    http://www.star-telegram.com/284/story/1163351.html

    Greinke wouldn’t be crazy, but I bet you could ask for more in that deal.

    Come back with some more specific details…

  29. Stevie YaYo Avatar
    Stevie YaYo

    Salary-based keeper league — I can keep the combo of Brian Roberts-Carlos Gonzalez or Brad Hawpe-Frank Francisco. In a vacuum I have to go with the latter tandem, no?

    Also in a vacuum — who wins a Tulo-Corey Hart deal? Or is that an Alien V. Predator-type proposition, whereby whoever wins, we lose?

  30. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Stevie Ya Yo – Close call, but I agree, I’d go with Hawpe/Francisco.

    Probably Hart – dude is huge.

  31. DirtyMexicans Avatar
    DirtyMexicans

    What does everyone think about Cliff Lee this year? He certainly had his cards fall in place last year. Was this a fluke or something he could carry over into this year?

  32. Dreamweapon Avatar
    Dreamweapon

    Living in two separate AL Central markets last year, I had plenty of opportunities to see Lee and I thought he looked really good. Confident, aggressive, poised. He was constantly attacking the strike zone every time I saw him, and the important underlying stats bear that out–there was nothing unusual about his BABIP, which was right in line with his past few years (notably, he stayed effective all year even after his incredibly lucky April), while his K/9 went up, his walks went radically down, and he induced a much better GB rate. All of that is fantastic, so, on the one hand, he may have genuinely turned the corner, and what you saw last year could be about what he actually is. OTOH, his stuff isn’t exactly elite (I can’t see him ever sniffing 200 Ks, for example, nor will he ever be in the class of say, Webb or Halladay, as far as GB pitchers go), so he’s going to have to continue to exhibit pinpoint command and smarts, and be fairly lucky, in order to continue to thrive and justify his elevated status. He’s going quite high in drafts from what I’ve seen–higher than I would take him, considering there are typically several guys with 220 K-type upside and/or longer resumes of sustained success left on the board when’s plucked. Equivocal, I know, but I guess the long and short is that I think he did have an actual breakthrough last year, but that it’s going to be tough to sustain due to his merely average ability to generate easy outs via the K or GB. He’s probably a Top-20 SP, but far closer to #20 than 1, or even 10, which is about where he’s going (MDC say #9 SP taken). So, while I think he’s good, I really doubt he’s as good as his draft position and would much rather take a flier on a flamethrower at those prices.

  33. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Dreamweapon summed up Lee precisely. I agree last year was no fluke – his skills improved dramatically. The one area he was truly lucky in was that just 6.0 percent of his fly balls went for homers, which was the lowest amount in MLB. So his ERA will jump some when that corrects itself this year. Still, a 5:1 K:BB ratio is extremely elite – so he’s probably for real. Just don’t expect another Cy Young worthy year.

  34. DirtyMexicans Avatar
    DirtyMexicans

    I hear you Dreamweapon. I’m in a 5×5 roto keeper league and the two pitchers I’ve slated to keep are Oswalt and Lee, with Dempster or Danks as alternative options. So while I’ve really got no other option, I was just wondering if people thought Lee’s top 15 status would hold down the line.

  35. RotoScoop Avatar
    RotoScoop

    Yeah definitely keep Lee.

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