Comments on: Barry Bonds http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/ The Scoop on Fantasy Sports Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:29:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: kim thorkelson http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-11640 kim thorkelson Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:10:16 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-11640 cracking on bonds. cracking on bonds.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9629 RotoScoop Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:59:43 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9629 No I understand. I think odds are he does eventually end up No. 1 on the list. I was just pointing out how longevity and many things need to go his way for it to happen. But I'd put my money on him doing so. I forgot about the new stadium. No I understand. I think odds are he does eventually end up No. 1 on the list. I was just pointing out how longevity and many things need to go his way for it to happen. But I’d put my money on him doing so. I forgot about the new stadium.

]]> By: Jason http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9626 Jason Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:25:02 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9626 A-Rod won't be in NY after this season, so Yankee Stadium won't matter. And even if he does (by some miracle), remember they get a new stadium in 2 years, so the effects of the park could change. If he ends up in a hitter friendly park, watch out. A-Rod won’t be in NY after this season, so Yankee Stadium won’t matter. And even if he does (by some miracle), remember they get a new stadium in 2 years, so the effects of the park could change. If he ends up in a hitter friendly park, watch out.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9171 RotoScoop Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:53:54 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9171 And Bonds might just be stubborn enough to DH until he's 50. That is, of course, assuming he can convince one other team to employ him, something far from certain. And Bonds might just be stubborn enough to DH until he’s 50. That is, of course, assuming he can convince one other team to employ him, something far from certain.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9170 RotoScoop Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:52:35 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9170 I agree on most fronts here (and stated as much above), but ARod is going to have to stay relatively healthy to eventually pass him. Odds are he does, and I personally think he will, but as close as he seems to the record for his age, he'll have to average 35 homers from now until he's 40 years old while playing in a very tough park on right-handed hitters (he's the only Yankee right ever to reach 50 in a single season) to surpass Bonds. And that only assumes Bonds gets 25-30 more before he retires. I agree on most fronts here (and stated as much above), but ARod is going to have to stay relatively healthy to eventually pass him. Odds are he does, and I personally think he will, but as close as he seems to the record for his age, he’ll have to average 35 homers from now until he’s 40 years old while playing in a very tough park on right-handed hitters (he’s the only Yankee right ever to reach 50 in a single season) to surpass Bonds. And that only assumes Bonds gets 25-30 more before he retires.

]]> By: Jason http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9168 Jason Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:36:25 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9168 Yes Bonds was a great player before he joined the Giants and yes he'd be a HOFer without the record. That is not in dispute. Howver, Bonds is a prick and he always gives the impression that everyone is out to get him and treats people like shite. There is overwhelming evidence that he took performance enhancing drugs (whether knowingly or not doesn't matter. He admitted to The Grand Jury that he took "the clear"). Why is his trainer in jail for not talking if he doesn't have damning evidence that would implicate Bonds? An innocent man would talk. He cheated, the record is tainted and an asterik should sit by his final number. Does't matter because too much however, because A-Rod's gonna break it in the next 5-7 years. Yes Bonds was a great player before he joined the Giants and yes he’d be a HOFer without the record. That is not in dispute.

Howver, Bonds is a prick and he always gives the impression that everyone is out to get him and treats people like shite. There is overwhelming evidence that he took performance enhancing drugs (whether knowingly or not doesn’t matter. He admitted to The Grand Jury that he took “the clear”).

Why is his trainer in jail for not talking if he doesn’t have damning evidence that would implicate Bonds? An innocent man would talk. He cheated, the record is tainted and an asterik should sit by his final number.

Does’t matter because too much however, because A-Rod’s gonna break it in the next 5-7 years.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9099 RotoScoop Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:02:25 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9099 Keith - Totally agree about Ruth versus his peers. He'd hit like 55 homers and the 2nd best would be 16 HRs. Crazy. Plus, he was a very good pitcher. I'm not sure I buy the whole McGwire was the reason behind Bonds roiding, but it does add a funny wrinkle to it. Bonds' beef with the media predated his roid use, so I think they had an axe to grind there. Still, no one has career years and such amazing seasons from ages 36-40 without some help. Keith – Totally agree about Ruth versus his peers. He’d hit like 55 homers and the 2nd best would be 16 HRs. Crazy. Plus, he was a very good pitcher. I’m not sure I buy the whole McGwire was the reason behind Bonds roiding, but it does add a funny wrinkle to it. Bonds’ beef with the media predated his roid use, so I think they had an axe to grind there. Still, no one has career years and such amazing seasons from ages 36-40 without some help.

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9098 RotoScoop Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:57:39 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9098 Rob (the elder) - Exactly.....Glad to hear you are a RotoScoop reader! Tell Joanie I said hi. Rob (the elder) – Exactly…..Glad to hear you are a RotoScoop reader! Tell Joanie I said hi.

]]> By: Keith http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9086 Keith Mon, 13 Aug 2007 02:28:54 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9086 I still don't know if I can say Bonds is #1 over Ruth, who dominated his era simply like no one else ever...but damn, those numbers are sick. It would have been fascinating to see what would have happened if he got pitched to with greater regularity. The part I find interesting though, is that the story is that Bonds got into juicing after watching the attention and the affection of the country fall upon the shoulders of McGwire and Sosa, and he wanted a piece of it. Ironically enough, if he had just stayed clean and been less of an asshole, he'd undoubtedly be viewed as the best player of his generation and likely been rooted for by most of the country, even if he wasn't breaking hallowed records in his 40's. I still don’t know if I can say Bonds is #1 over Ruth, who dominated his era simply like no one else ever…but damn, those numbers are sick. It would have been fascinating to see what would have happened if he got pitched to with greater regularity.

The part I find interesting though, is that the story is that Bonds got into juicing after watching the attention and the affection of the country fall upon the shoulders of McGwire and Sosa, and he wanted a piece of it. Ironically enough, if he had just stayed clean and been less of an asshole, he’d undoubtedly be viewed as the best player of his generation and likely been rooted for by most of the country, even if he wasn’t breaking hallowed records in his 40’s.

]]> By: Rob (the elder) http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-9021 Rob (the elder) Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:02:57 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-9021 Dalton: As I've told Robby, apropos of your article, we Giants fans can only say, as Churchill did of Stalin in WWII: "He may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he's our son-of-a-bitch." Dalton: As I’ve told Robby, apropos of your article, we Giants fans can only say, as Churchill did of Stalin in WWII: “He may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he’s our son-of-a-bitch.”

]]> By: RotoScoop http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-8652 RotoScoop Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:27:49 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-8652 Well said. Well said.

]]> By: tvac http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-8621 tvac Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:55:22 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-8621 You know what though I read all that and the first thing that pops into my head is even if he did roids for the past 5 years he was still one of the top 3 players of all time before that. How many gold gloves has he won in the past 5 years? How many home runs would he have ended up with w/out roids? How many all star games would he have been in? He certainly would have had 500 home runs and 500 stolen bases at the end of his career. And to top it all off we still don't have conclusive proof that steroids helped him more than hurt him. I don't like him from what I understand Bonds to be of as a person but I respect him for what he has accomplished with or without roids. You know what though I read all that and the first thing that pops into my head is even if he did roids for the past 5 years he was still one of the top 3 players of all time before that. How many gold gloves has he won in the past 5 years? How many home runs would he have ended up with w/out roids? How many all star games would he have been in? He certainly would have had 500 home runs and 500 stolen bases at the end of his career. And to top it all off we still don’t have conclusive proof that steroids helped him more than hurt him.

I don’t like him from what I understand Bonds to be of as a person but I respect him for what he has accomplished with or without roids.

]]> By: Mr. Tintle http://www.rotoscoop.com/2007/08/barry-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-8575 Mr. Tintle Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:56:27 +0000 http://rotoscoop.com/blog/2007/08/10/barry-bonds/#comment-8575 Nice read. BARRY BARRY BARRY Nice read.

BARRY BARRY BARRY

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