Updated rankings – Starting Pitchers

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20 responses to “Updated rankings – Starting Pitchers”

1. 

   butch

   July 9, 2007

   Where’s Jon Garland?

2. 

   Steve

   July 9, 2007

   He’s busy givin’ up 12 runs in 3 innings.

3. 

   Eddie

   July 9, 2007

   No faith in Vazquez? I’d take him over quite a few of the guys ranked in front.

4. 

   RotoScoop

   July 9, 2007

   Garland is having a solid season, but he has a poor offense supporting him and pitches in an extreme hitter’s park. The 50/33 K/BB ratio in 114 innings portends a rise in ERA during the 2nd half.

5. 

   RotoScoop

   July 9, 2007

   Eddie – Ya, I can see that. I wouldn’t have a problem bumping him up into tier three, actually. The 108/26 K/BB ratio is pretty damn impressive. But he’s always been one of those guys with better peripherals than ERA, consistently giving up big hits at the wrong time and poor out of the stretch. He also gives up too many homers. But it’s tough to argue with what he’s done so far in 2007 – maybe he’s finally learning to harness his stuff, which has always been plus. Just remember, the last time he finished with an ERA below 4.42 was 2003. And he has the same things going against him as Garland does that I listed above. Still, I can definitely appreciate the argument against my ranking here.

6. 

   MaddenDude

   July 9, 2007

   Yea, I think Lilly is somewhat high, Vazquez should at least be above him.

7. 

   Paul R

   July 9, 2007

   Kazmir does not seem to belong on the list. Sure he can strike out a batter per inning but he has never won more than 10 games in a season and his WHIP is really bad this year.

8. 

   Jeremy

   July 9, 2007

   In my non-money league (don’t ask about the other one :()
   I’ve got Beckett, C.C., Johan Santana, even Guthrie and looking to pick up a bat. I’ve gotten comeback offers of Bay for CC and Carlos Lee for Santana. I’m in 2nd (12 team league) and need offense to make a push at the top.
   What would you think fair value would be?

   I also have way too many closers, K-Rod, Putz, Jenks, Capps, Howry, Corpas, Otsuka but can’t swing a trade for any of them. Any ideas?

9. 

   Steve

   July 9, 2007

   I’d probably want more than just Lee for Santana, either a better outfielder or another decent pitcher thrown in.

10. 

    RotoScoop

    July 10, 2007

    I actually thought I ranked Kazmir somewhat conservatively compared to most. But I agree Paul, there’s a lot not to like despite his plus stuff. His fastball isn’t quite what it once was, and his pitch counts are way too high, often limiting him to 5-6 innings per start. There’s more to pitching than the ability to get a strikeout.

11. 

    RotoScoop

    July 10, 2007

    Jeremy – I agree with Steve here, you can definitely get more in return for Santana. I like C. Lee, and I understand in the context of your team that a bat is more important, but you should be asking for more. And the same goes for C.C./Bay. For Santana, you should get back a top talent (Pujols, Reyes), or an Utley or Miguel Cabrera type with a throw in SP as well.

    I think Sabathia is worth a pretty good hitter too. Go after a C. Lee, Holliday, Morneau type. But really, I’d do my best to keep those two starters and package a couple of your closers for a solid outfielder (I like buying low on Andruw Jones right now, or go after Corey Hart if you need SBs). If you want to go big, Santana and Jenks is a decent offer for A-Rod, and should net you Pujols if the straight up offer doesn’t pan out.

12. 

    Jeremy

    July 10, 2007

    yeah I’m gonna keep trying guys. In a general sense your right, A-rod should be the equal of Santana, but I think everyone says I can’t lose a bat like that and fill it with a backup, so you have to sweeten it a lot more than is usually worth it. Just musing about ranked values vs actual values….

13. 

    randy

    July 10, 2007

    hi, iam a little surprized on your thoughts in basketball of villanueva, but out of the 3 villanueva, a. biedrins, a. bynum who do you like in order for the future————–thanks

14. 

    RotoScoop

    July 10, 2007

    Jeremy – No I understand, A-Rod is probably impossible to trade for now. You’d have to give up more than he’s worth, undoubtedly. But you should also be able to get C. Lee for Sabathia, not Santana.

15. 

    RotoScoop

    July 10, 2007

    Randy – Well, Charlie V. isn’t a personal favorite or anything, but I do see him being undervalued entering fantasy drafts this year (or in your trade market). Sure, they brought in Yi, but both can be on the court at the same time and Yi’s likely to be traded anyway. The front court is a little crowded, and he is recovering from shoulder surgery but before he got hurt, he had a pretty big first month last season. Then the injury hindered him even when he was on the court. Still, he was just a guy who popped into my head as a flier type, not a HUGE leap guy, so I can understand your hesitation. And I would rank him third out of those three you asked.

    Both Bynum and Biedrins are going to hurt your FT percentage but also have quite a bit of upside. I think Biedrins is the safer pick, but Bynum has better offensive potential. My advice on those two is to rate them fairly equally and see which one you can buy cheaper.

16. 

    RotoScoop

    July 10, 2007

    Also Randy, if you can get Darko Mililic dirt cheap, it might not be a terrible idea. Blocks are a really scarce property, and I know he’s never going to live up to the hype, but he’s still so young, there’s continued room for growth.

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